If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. The roof or cover is not substantial enough to keep out rain but it could work as camouflage from the air. A search eventually turned up a severed foot and scattered remains, but authorities had trouble determininghow the hikershad died. THANK GOD SOMEONE IS SEEING WHAT I SEE. Rarely are foreigners targeted for a reason other than pure opportunity. Like a trap net or something. Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. Youre welcome to do that other places online. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. Is it a reasonable number? Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. Kremers'slocked phone showed someone entered awrong PINseveral times. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. as soon as u see 1 photoshopped pic u know something is wrong,, the bag turned up to keep the police from searching the jungle. If you look closely at the top left part of this photo, you can see that, behind all the criss-crossed twigs and branches, there is a bank of rock. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . Was the reception that bad in those locations? These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. Haha. Tony and Debra Velleman are pictured in an undated image. These photos all look very photoshopped. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. They had more than enough evidence and leads to solve the case but they ignored so much of the evidence. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. And look at it from this point of view. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. Im sure removal of the comment was justified, but in considering all possibilities Im curious if there was there any insight offered? They got lost and succumbed to the wild. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. In the yellow circle could be just a leaf, but not in the red one. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Search shoe with foot in it found. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. If someone died, you would certainly write, Body can be found at xyz.. Its so cold. She is obviously excited by the weird place they have found. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Its disturbing. Also, the parents did not release all the images. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. Both of their phones finally ran out of battery by April 11 - ten days after they disappeared. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. The government intentionally did not investigate key pieces of information: fingerprints, phone records, locals in the area, other forms of DNA. In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. To the left hangs a cow skull smeared with blood, perhaps worn during the sacrifices. Where is YNW Melly? 3. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. The same thing happened to the taxidriver who drove Kris and Lisanne to the forest. It is almost as if they are deliberately not to tell anything rather than the much speculated something. One thing is for sure, I will never travel to Panama. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. . The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. I think most of what people are seeing -other than the obvious, of course- is pareidolia. He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. I could go on and on. March 3, 2023, 7:57 AM. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. (From our perspective to the right of her directly in front of her feet about waist high). But I see him in none of L&Ks photos. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. People claiming the floor is made out of skulls, that there is a booby trap above her head, that there are 5 men with rifles watching her, that there are snakes hanging down, that she is at some sort of human sacrificial alter etc. Given that most people crop off the top of this image, people would have missed the findings that I mention below. . Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. Hi Jason, thanks for you comment. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. In truth, the fact that theres no evidence that the dog was with them leads a person to believe that perhaps someone could have fabricated the fact that the dog was with them. Curious if people have found these specific locations and done some extensive testing and exploring in those and surrounding areas? There appears to be a blue pieces of trash on the ground. I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. For the next three days she keeps moving, weakened by exposure to the elements and at the edge of starvation. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. They would have shared all the info with the private investigators whom they have hired. He has a whole series of You Tube videos (over 50) that were made that show that the pictures were manipulated and he names the suspect. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). If you would know (and read) every bits & pieces of this story, you would actually see that the they got lost theory does not hold up with any of the facts and evidence found, not at all, not one bit. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). thank you for sharing this. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Two days pass. This! Weird. 4. She is looking down to the left and appears to be shocked by what she sees. Hi Chris, good question. I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. Someone in the comments put the link to your website thats how I found you! I believe that this case WILL be solved. Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. Other than the dog, the young women went on their hike alone, only asking for directions from a local innkeeper, who advised them to take a taxi back to town. Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. It does look like a manmade structure. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. Shes clearly holding a bottle of water in her left hand in front of her. This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. If you find any additional information, please let me know. El despus, es pnico y preocupacin. Possibly that info can help. Agreed the thing on the tree trunk looks man made but even if it is it is not sinister. Interesting that you. However, upon closer inspection, shes really ducking her head as to say look at the things over my head. Where did u see that picture ? Unfortunately, this camera setting is not public knowledge, but the default mode is Continuous.. He believes he is working for God. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JheETl6Obg. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. Problem with that is that you would think they would simply turn round once they realised. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. Maybe you can find more answers about this horrible story. View our online Press Pack. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? Keep in mind nobody has seen all of the photos and we dont know why. Eight tourists from Moscow who. A man and a woman. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. You would write something out on notepad or at least be texting everyone in your address book hoping one got through saying Help. There has recently been something in the news about it. A path looks different anyway when you walk back the other way so they would not be aware they were not heading the right way and carried on. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. Sorry to bring up the dog again. Hi Chris..I just came across this story yesterday and it was really sad and disturbingI hope the truth comes out too. There are so many possibilities and we will probably never really know. Yes, exactly. The picture just before this one appears to be higher in elevation, meaning that from the direction they were coming, a pit trap being place around this area could/would be ideal. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. The indigenous locals that were committing the sacrifices were influenced by a villager that had recently travelled abroad and returned to his village with extremist Christian views. She makes a last effort to wake her friend. The dog came back, but the young women didn't. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! With regards to the photos, they are probably real. Someone watched them swimming. why couldnt they just destroy the phone all together, break it beyond repair and leave it in the backpack. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. Seems strange. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. I speculate about potential reasons. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. Emilio Virola - 12 years in prison. There is so much to see and Juan is amazing. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. His family told Fox News that he had been traveling by himself and he was in good health. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were both adventurers. There were no signs at that time. Hopefully, this 2021 investigation can find the truth of exactly what happened. Note the shadow across her face , covering her eyes: that is from her hand. 1 reason tourists sometimes annoy residents. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. To me it looks like the chopped off end of a thick tree branch. I think someone took them there. Others suggested neitherFroonnor Kremerstook those photos; they believesomeone abducted the women. Thank you for your consideration. They know that youre supposed to find a river, so they set out in search. From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. When a bad break happens at ankle level and the body decomposes and gets scavenged once the flesh and muscle is gone the foot and shoe are separated from the rest of the leg. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. You can see a kind of nose and lips. Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. A woman from the localNgbetribeturned in a blue backpack she claimed she found along the bankof a nearby river. None of the calls ever got through due to a lack of a signal. Both were never seen again, The Sun reports. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. If its part of the trail where people walk all the time I dont think something is up with this place. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. It was taken on the Continental Divide exactly 14 minutes and 12 seconds after their photos at the Mirador. However, the tone of the pictures began to change. I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. Europe is the world . There just seems to be something wrong about this photo, and I dont like her expression. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. I think Kris and Lisanne were two smart, savvy, levelheaded young women. Definitely foul play, in my opinion. Shes describing the things youve noticed on the pic!!!! Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall,or suffer other fatalaccidents while traveling-this could've happened to these women as well. What I have not found is concrete evidence of where they went. If you follow down from the two red objects, there appears to be something that looks almost like blocks or siding shingles. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Thanks in advance! I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. She is clearly shielding her eyes from the sun by holding her right arm up. Sadly however, the Beaumont children are just three of around 2,000 long-term missing people in Australia. Ella divide en dos la historia: las fotos anteriores a la 506 son de alegra, la foto 506 es de pnico y la 507 y 508 de preocupacin. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. Celebrity. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. Daytime would be sweaty but what about at night when the temperature would be down in the 50-60s? Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? Something happened between the morning and afternoon of the 5th because it was in the afternoon that a wrong pin was entered and subsequently every time thereafter. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. I dont think there was actual foul play. After finding the women's phones, authorities now had alead. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. But so much of this search/investigation was poorly executed. More info here. Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. Why IMG_0509 is missing, which could be a crucial piece of evidence, is an enigma. There is an international consortium working behind the scenes to slowly and methodically continue the investigation. During thistime,Kremers and Froon repeatedly called for help. It is a suicide decision and they, experienced travellers, know that. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. Is this in dispute? Someone called her so she turning to look at them. Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. https://i.postimg.cc/3xK4Pdmb/Kris-Kremers-Full-Photo-Highest-Res-auto-x1-1-photos-v2-faces-x2-colored-toned.jpg. In fact the last 4 (pre-nightime) photos are at odds with the others. Patients often tell our staff about finding the corpses of people who have suffered fatal falls or drowned in swollen rivers. CARACAS, Venezuela -- Few Venezuela ns have not had their lives touched by migration over the last decade, when more than 7 million people left the country amid a political . US Is Europe's No. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. Thanks for sharing this info. I wonder? It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. What is clear is that on that fateful day the girls went out for a short hike and never came back. Where are those Pings? I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). Lisanne would gave definitely called her mother AT LEAST ONCE because, listen to this this is from her own diary written just two days before their disappearance: The hanging object and other points of interest you highlighted reminded me of this. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. She turns to talk Lisanna The emergency calls still dont go through. I have created a comparison of the original photo leaked to the public, the artificially upsampled version thereof and the (presumed) full resolution picture taken from the article linked to in my previous post (all cropped to show only Kris and further 2 magnified). Im considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. However, image 510 was taken on April 8, in the darkness of the jungle. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. For the next four days they travel. They obviously protect the predator(s). The camera had a video function this could have been used including of course sound. Most dog owners here do not use a leash when walking their dogs. They lose their money and leave Panama with their lives. The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. My sole concern is for the young women who lost their lives for absolutely no reason. It is clear they contributed much to this by their actions. Theres a circular object hanging to the left of Kris. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. For more background and insight, please feel free to read some of the disappearance stories Ive written about: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/. This leads me to believe that they were followed by one or more men who made their presence known around that time. Thanks for the observation. Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. We simply dont have enough information at this time. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. This girl was tortured before they killed her. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. We can only speculate without more evidence of that.
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