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Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. It was Patricias hair no question. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree No explanation given. Youre absolutely right!! Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? I thought the same. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. She hadn't lived long enough.". Guilty Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. Jealousy was the motive. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Have you read the book? They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) I hope she rots in hell. Whatever the truth is. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Very similar. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Jenkins' family left the courtroom without comment on Friday, but they hugged each other once the sentence was ordered. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? And NOBODY saw her at all? I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. More hairs there. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. Ms. Within about seven months of Larry being placed in a maximum-security prison, the LAPD paid him a visit. She should have received the death penalty imo. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. And she will have to answer eventually. What a contrived case! The story of Patricia - The Vivid Faces of the Vanished | Facebook Yeah, no. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. He wanted to move to Colorado and she was against it.. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? "I'm not sorry we were caught. Then you claim this is an opinion. Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. "So it was relieving to get guilty verdict and get justice for these girls.". She had money put aside. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. There was widespread speculation that the sisters were shot in an honor killing a practice in some cultures in which men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. This woman was obsessed and jealous. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. There are innocent people in prison. 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But in October 1998, the LAPD established a cold case task force and reopened the murder case 17 years after Jerome Scotts death. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Patricia Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". Not gender neutral. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. Both were deceased. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Patricia There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. No show. Fugitive dad arrested for slaying teen daughters in honor killing I had never been in jail before and I wasnt allowed to go outside. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Janet Marcelin, a business owner, said the police had her rehearse and record a fake confession after intimidating and harassing her during the investigation. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. Former Most-Wanted Fugitive Accused in 2008 Honor Killings of My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. His nephew, Islam, the brother to Amina and Sarah and son to Yaser, pleaded guilty to the same charges in June 2021 and received 10 years. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Patricia Owens, "Yaser Said, you're a devil. It's been a long three years for them.". It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Prosecutor pounds away. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. 5 years prior to all this happening! Lawyers pleaded their cases in closing arguments to 12 jurors and three alternates for nearly two hours Tuesday morning. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Stop. At that time he was living in Connecticut. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Puny policy. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. Had there been a switch? So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. I think shes guilty for sure. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). Said Nine. Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. Patricia But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. Exactly Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. WebShe is as guilty as her husbandshe KNEW that her husband would kill these girlsshe even STATED that he would kill the girlsand yet she lied to them to get them to return to Texas Why not question some of this evidence? Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? I am sorry it ever happened at all.". 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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