The Psychedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in And I offer psychedelics as one of those archaic techniques of ecstasy that seems to have been relevant and meaningful to our ancestors. So there's a house preserved outside of Pompeii, preserved, like so much else, under the ash of Mount Vesuvius's eruption in the year 79 of the Common Era. All right, so now, let's follow up with Dionysus, but let's see here. Then there's what were the earliest Christians doing with the Eucharist. They are guaranteed an afterlife. It's arguably not the case in the third century. Not because it's not there, because it hasn't been tested. This event is entitled, Psychedelics, The Ancient Religion With No Name? So perhaps there's even more evidence. And very famous passages, by the way, that should be familiar to most New Testament readers. In fact, he found beer, wine, and mead all mixed together in a couple of different places. Is this only Marcus? This is all secret. The continuity theory of normal aging states that older adults will usually maintain the same activities, behaviors, relationships as they did in their earlier years of life. The altar had been sitting in a museum in Israel since the 1960s and just hadn't been tested. And I think we get hung up on the jargon. Do the drugs, Dr. Stang? 44:48 Psychedelics and ancient cave art .
The Tim Ferriss Show - #535: General Stanley McChrystal Mast #646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The Eleusinian And to be quite honest, I'd never studied the ancient Greeks in Spain. And the one thing that unites both of those worlds in this research called the pagan continuity hypothesis, the one thing we can bet on is the sacred language of Greek. Which is really weird, because that's how the same Dina Bazer, the same atheist in the psilocybin trials, described her insight. Part 1 Brian C. Muraresku: The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis and the Hallucinogenic Origins of Religion - Feb 22, 2023 This time, tonight I'll say that it's just not my time yet. Because ergot is just very common. So the basic point being, as far as we can tell, beer and wine are routinely mixed with things that we don't do today. If the Dionysian one is psychedelic, does it really make its way into some kind of psychedelic Christianity? I appreciate this. Throughout his five books he talks about wine being mixed with all kinds of stuff, like frankincense and myrrh, relatively innocuous stuff, but also less innocuous things like henbane and mandrake, these solanaceous plants which he specifically says is fatal. And I'll just list them out quickly. I would have been happy to find a spiked wine anywhere. There's also this hard evidence that comes out of an archaeological site outside of Pompeii, if I have it correct. They're mixing potions. These are famous figures to those of us who study early Christianity. I don't think we have found it. So it wasn't just a random place to find one of these spiked wines. And besides that, young Brian, let's keep the mysteries mysteries.
Two Reviews of The Immortality Key - Graham Hancock So when Hippolytus is calling out the Marcosians, and specifically women, consecrating this alternative Eucharist in their alternative proto-mass, he uses the Greek word-- and we've talked about this before-- but he uses the Greek word [SPEAKING GREEK] seven times in a row, by the way, without specifying which drugs he's referring to. BRIAN MURARESKU: Dr. Stang, an erudite introduction as ever. First I'll give the floor to Brian to walk us into this remarkable book of his and the years of hard work that went into it, what drove him to do this. 18.3C: Continuity Theory. And so for me, this was a hunt through the catacombs and archives and libraries, doing my sweet-talking, and trying to figure out what was behind some of those locked doors. After the first few chapters the author bogs down flogging the Pagan Continuity Hypothesis and exulting over his discovery of small scraps of evidence he found in a decade of research. And so in my afterword, I present this as a blip on the archaeochemical radar. And that's what I get into in detail in the book. And I look forward to talking about this event with you after the fact eventually over a beer. And, as always the best way to keep abreast of this series and everything else we do here at the Center is to join our mailing list. Now is there any evidence for psychedelic use in ancient Egypt, and if not, do you have any theory as to why that's silent? And in his book [? And not least because if I were to do it, I'd like to do so in a deeply sacred ritual. But if the original Eucharist were psychedelic, or even if there were significant numbers of early Christians using psychedelics like sacrament, I would expect the representatives of orthodox, institutional Christianity to rail against it. So whatever these [SPEAKING GREEK] libations incense were, the church fathers don't get into great detail about what may have been spiking them.
Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin: The Eleusinian Mysteries I was satisfied with I give Brian Muraresku an "A" for enthusiasm, but I gave his book 2 stars. would certainly appreciate.
Before the church banned their use, early Christians used - Substack To assess this hypothesis and, perhaps, to push it further, has required years of dogged and, at times, discouraging works in archives and archaeology. CHARLES STANG: Well, Mr, Muraresku, you are hedging your bets here in a way that you do not necessarily hedge your bets in the book. The Immortality Key, The Secret History of the Religion With No Name. So I want to propose that we stage this play in two acts. Which turns out, it may be they were. Whether there's a psychedelic tradition-- I mean, there are some suggestive paintings. And then was, in some sense, the norm, the original Eucharist, and that it was then suppressed by orthodox, institutional Christianity, who persecuted, especially the women who were the caretakers of this tradition. Brought to you by GiveWell.org charity research and effective giving and 5-Bullet Friday, my very own email newsletter.Welcome to The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to deconstruct world-class performers to tease out their routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life. That seems very believable, but there's nothing to suggest that the pharmacy or drug farm was serving Christians, or even that the potions produced were for ritual use. I understand more papers are about to be published on this. But I think there's a decent scientific foothold to begin that work. It was-- Eleusis was state-administered, a somewhat formal affair. And I think oversight also comes in handy within organized religion. So first of all, please tell us how it is you came to pursue this research to write this book, and highlight briefly what you think are its principal conclusions and their significance for our present and future. And I'm not even sure what that piece looks like or how big it is. If beer was there that long ago, what kind of beer was it? And all along, I invite you all to pose questions to Brian in the Q&A function. And I got to say, there's not a heck of a lot of eye rolling, assuming people read my afterword and try to see how careful I am about delineating what is knowable and what is not and what this means for the future of religion. Psychedelics Today: Mark Plotkin - Bio-Cultural Conservation of the Amazon. But Egypt seems to not really be hugely relevant to the research. The Immortality Key has its shortcomings. That to live on forever and ever, to live an everlasting life is not immortality. And the second act, the same, but for what you call paleo-Christianity, the evidence for your suspicion that the Eucharist was originally a psychedelic sacrament. So we not only didn't have the engineering know-how-- we used to think-- we didn't have even settled life to construct something like this. So Dionysus is not the god of alcohol. And I've listened to the volunteers who've gone through these experiences. And I think that we would behoove ourselves to incorporate, resuscitate, maybe, some of those techniques that seem to have been employed by the Greeks at Eleusis or by the Dionysians or some of these earliest Christians. And this is what I present to the world. I am so fortunate to have been selected to present my thesis, "Mythology and Psychedelics: Taking the Pagan Continuity Hypothesis a Step Further" at. But with what were they mixed, and to what effect? And this is at a time when we're still hunting and gathering. They linked the idea of witches to an imagined organized sect which was a danger to the Christian commonwealth. And there were gaps as well.
The Tim Ferriss Show - Transcripts And my favorite line of the book is, "The lawyer in me won't sleep until that one chalice, that one container, that one vessel comes to light in an unquestionable Christian context.". So welcome to the fourth event in our yearlong series on psychedelics and the future of religion, co-sponsored by the Esalen Institute, the Riverstyx Foundation, and the Chacruna Institute for Psychedelic Plant Medicines. "@BrianMuraresku with @DocMarkPlotkin The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, Lessons from Scholar Karen Armstrong, and Much More" Please enjoy! Well, wonderful. Now that doesn't mean, as Brian was saying, that then suggests that that's the norm Eucharist. And if it only occurs in John, the big question is why. . So I don't write this to antagonize them or the church, the people who, again, ushered me into this discipline and into these questions.
#646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin The Eleusinian I'm currently reading The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku and find this 2nd/3rd/4th century AD time period very interesting, particularly with regards to the adoptions of pagan rituals and practices by early Christianity. I mean, lots of great questions worthy of further investigation. Tim Ferriss is a self-experimenter and bestselling author, best known for The 4-Hour Workweek, which has been translated into 40+ languages. And I hear-- I sense that narrative in your book. But I do want to push back a little bit on the elevation of this particular real estate in southern Italy. And Dennis, amongst others, calls that a signature Dionysian miracle. So back in 2012, archaeologists and chemists were scraping some of these giant limestone troughs, and out pops calcium oxalate, which is one of these biomarkers for the fermentation of brewing. He was greatly influenced by Sigmund Freud (1940) who viewed an infant's first relationship - usually with the mother - as "the prototype of all later love-relations". I know that that's a loaded phrase. And so I don't think that psychedelics are coming to replace the Sunday Eucharist. Because at my heart, I still consider myself a good Catholic boy. So what evidence can you provide for that claim? And maybe in these near-death experiences we begin to actually experience that at a visceral level. But you go further still, suggesting that Jesus himself at the Last Supper might have administered psychedelic sacrament, that the original Eucharist was psychedelic.
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