If CGtrader's advertisement budget is a problem, a Crowdfunding round may help. Turbosquid just has it backwards. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". My opinions have evoluted over the months. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. In order to post an answer, you need to sign in. It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. Yes CGtrader is great! This would allow genuine potential buyers to check the quality of models. Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Term of Use on www.turbosquid.com. i like the points system on cg trader . Reputation for promptly fixing problems? Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. Gumroad. My current store on CGTrader includes numerous items that were deemed to be infringing upon GW IP (link below). So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : Animated Camel 3D Model 13. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. Is the same for me as everyone else. Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. Same for me, here. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. But we forgot about the buyers. I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. There is indeed much structural work that needs to be done here but the core foundation/principal is here. Yep.. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. Free 3D Models - Download Free 3D Models 3DExport And I've done the same thing on Turbosquid, in the same period of time. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Sales dropped to almost nothing. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! The items from CG and TS do not appear very far from each other in Google. 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . If CGT would manage to draw more buyers from TS then even more sellers would migrate here. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. Some points for and against. Everything we do is going on between people, we are all in this together, none of us is separate now matter how hard we would like to think so. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. It always depends on how you look at this industry from your point of view: - Are you into this market trying to make a living out of it? Free 3D Models Download: The Best Sites for 2023 | All3DP Yes. @tomislavveg, that is very true, but as marvimation already mentioned, CGT first have to draw those buyers to its web, otherwise there's not much use from all those benefits if there's no buyers who could reap them :]. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. Check out our picks of the best sites to download free 3D models for 3D printing, games & animation, graphic design, architecture, and more. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). That is where the true value of 3D is today but unless someone can show the masses that this kind of thing can be done at a reasonable price ,(based on market value), then 3D will continue to be a half dead market until it will die completely because robotics have reached an advanced stage where they will soon be able to replace artists. Realistic Female 3D Model. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. [http://www.google.com google5 ] Thank you. There are currently no models in your cart. [Lighthouse12](http://lighthouseapp.com/ "Lighthouse12") Dear adentonclark, They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. Marius knows this very well as he (whenever he can) communicates whit us. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! Let's give some time to time. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. Bangalore Escort I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model 3D - TurboSquid 2034950 (Edge We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. Rigged 3D Female Models | TurboSquid Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. This is the Tesla Model 3. Change Method. f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. . "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. Hopefully that would make squids to react. In CGtrader you can accumulate many until you set up payment agreement. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Animated Lion 3D Model 14. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). [google14]url:http://www.google.com. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. I'm not sure about your analysis. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. Search Filter Free products only Discount Formats Free products only Reset filters Free Personally, I will never sign up to exclusive contracts, others should always get chances to maybe offer better job if they can. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. I have to agree with Limonadinis on this without a good search engine function we loose many clients to Turbosquid. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. So what I did was simply adding the 60% cut to the product on Ts. That thing is just getting started ;-). Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. Its great way to compete and fair . You just have to check the Sellers forum at Turbosquid to see plenty of complaints about all sorts of abusive policies. Check my store https://apkvisa.com/dungeon-quest-mod-apk/, Very motivating and supportive too.Hope you keep on sharing a greater amount of your ideas. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. And at the same time, if they periodically do something here, try to add something new, then the TS, as long as I remember it, does not particularly try to become convenient (But at the same time it takes most of the profit !!!). On the other hand, reason for refund should be solid. I do feel cg trader gives the artists a better price and the share is fair . I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: I want to say the following. I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . Better for who? (e.g. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? | CGTrader Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Of those limited people just a hand full would actually buy models or put money towards models so if TS already has won those people we need to find our own nitch or we go out of business. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. This is why: The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. Advertising? Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. Maybe they have a much deeper interaction with the clients? If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. - Do you prefer to do business with companies that takes the most profit from your products in exchange for a short-term higher revenue? I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. Considering it as a seller, CGTrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. But based on the results, we see that it makes sense to show off the CG part on the homepage as well. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. Hi there, just want to ask about the artstation store, do they have a condition of not selling on other store? I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. So here on CGt I could have just asked the buyer if he would be interested in that sort of deal. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. A real pointless task. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. That is a serious problem because it means a whole lot more work for sellers and I wish they would just get with the program. The people at the top of the pyramid scheme bully all the new modelers who show any sales success because they barely scrape by as it is so it is really bad work environment to work for Turbosquid is not worth your time. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) If you have any questions about these. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Remember The3DStudio? CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. And yes .. "CG Trader has made their world about 3d printing". The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. NoneCG will be up for it. B: CGTrader needs to do SOMETHING about all the damn undercutters. Same for me, here. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". Animated and Rigged 3D Finger Models | TurboSquid Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. 2. Is it fair if I do? @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. --GENERAL--. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. If you have any questions about these. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization!
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